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I was recently playing a game and and having a normal conversation that turned into an argument and IceOps|Down kept arguing with me after i joined back and he was being disrespectful and not treating me equally and calling me a little kid and would just like to let the admins know that Down wasnt doing his job very well by banning me just because he knew he was wrong and he was being abusive and unfair with his powers. Just letting everyone know

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I was recently playing a game and and having a normal conversation that turned into an argument and IceOps|Down kept arguing with me after i joined back and he was being disrespectful and not treating me equally and calling me a little kid and would just like to let the admins know that Down wasnt doing his job very well by banning me just because he knew he was wrong and he was being abusive and unfair with his powers. Just letting everyone know

You can´t even appeal a ban right, do you think anyone is going to take you seriously now?

I do have a few screeshots, I banned you for 3 hours because you obviously lost your cool.

I dont feel like starting a chat with someone who's too mad to have a decent chat with.

This started out with Cheese asking why there's a swearing barrier because he thinks it's fun to swear.

I told him the reason, as it's a very obvious reason it did not seemed to reach him and thus kept going on that.

As the time went by this had started getting an arguement, but I didnt really care nor paid attention to him

His Guildy also got into it somehow because he also thought it's stupid to censor swear words,

as I told him the same reason, Cheese joined (He left for 2 minutes) and ofcourse he joins in again.

He blamed me for not letting the arguement lie not knowing that (His guildy) brought up the arguement again.

Thus kept saying he would get more accomplishment in his life, and calling me a kid.

Ofcourse I did call him immature at some point and I guess that was the trigger.

After hearing enough about me being a ''failure'' I banned him for 3 hours,

Honestly if I were in a bad mood it would've been a little longer so be happy Cheese.

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

Im not appealing, im just saying i dont think its fair that he can insult me and abuse his power just because he has more power. Just wanted to let the admins know that he shouldnt be able to ban people for no reason.

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

If you'd take a look you see it's a friend of his, the dude was being annoying all map long.

You can see me attempting to make screenshots to show what he said above but I did /screenshot instead.

You can verbally abuse someone without having to use cursewords,

You're right I didnt really care enough hence the 3h ban,

You dont even know me, nor do I know you,

This appeal is not ment for you is it?

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

Im not appealing, im just saying i dont think its fair that he can insult me and abuse his power just because he has more power. Just wanted to let the admins know that he shouldnt be able to ban people for no reason.

It's very simple, you need to post evidence of Down abusing his powers, and post an abuse report. If you have no proof, you have no case :)

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

If you'd take a look you see it's a friend of his, the dude was being annoying all map long.

You can see me attempting to make screenshots to show what he said above but I did /screenshot instead.

You can verbally abuse someone without having to use cursewords,

You're right I didnt really care enough hence the 3h ban,

You dont even know me, nor do I know you,

This appeal is not ment for you is it?

Who cares how much we know eachother? You attitude displayed here, and in the last abuse report I remember you had on you, just makes me more certain that if Cheese has screenshots, you would be fueling the fire just as much as he did.

I don't care who the appeal is for, as long as it is on the forums, it's public, and it's common policy that other admins say their oppinions, but I guess you're new, so you probably didn't know that :)

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

If you'd take a look you see it's a friend of his, the dude was being annoying all map long.

You can see me attempting to make screenshots to show what he said above but I did /screenshot instead.

You can verbally abuse someone without having to use cursewords,

You're right I didnt really care enough hence the 3h ban,

You dont even know me, nor do I know you,

This appeal is not ment for you is it?

Who cares how much we know eachother? You attitude displayed here, and in the last abuse report I remember you had on you, just makes me more certain that if Cheese has screenshots, you would be fueling the fire just as much as he did.

I don't care who the appeal is for, as long as it is on the forums, it's public, and it's common policy that other admins say their oppinions, but I guess you're new, so you probably didn't know that :)

New? Me?

I've been in IceOps long before you joined mate, so you're the ''new'' one here.

Common policy that other admins say their opinions? Are you an admin?

I'd like to know Ninja's or Delta's or Kelm's opinion as they're obviously the ones who watch over us and not you.

It's funny because you're actually calling me a liar now, you werent even there mate.

It does matter wether you know me or not because you'd know im a calm person.

The last abuse report I had on me?

Look at the replies, and you'd know everyone agreed with what I did was right.

But noo, mister ''I know better'' has to jump to conclusions,

anyway close the thread as it's obvious that he doesn't have proof nor isn't appealing.

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Just a suggestion Down calm down :P

And you are a calm person. You just somtimes flip out for a tiny reasons. Like in Dayz insuting me of kid because i only restarted the server... when nobody was online...

And recently threatend to ban me in the map meatboy because players told me that the so told "glitch" was a secret. And you fliped out because i was messing around and shot the acti via the "glitch" only ONCE cause i didnt know it would touch him.

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

If you'd take a look you see it's a friend of his, the dude was being annoying all map long.

You can see me attempting to make screenshots to show what he said above but I did /screenshot instead.

You can verbally abuse someone without having to use cursewords,

You're right I didnt really care enough hence the 3h ban,

You dont even know me, nor do I know you,

This appeal is not ment for you is it?

Who cares how much we know eachother? You attitude displayed here, and in the last abuse report I remember you had on you, just makes me more certain that if Cheese has screenshots, you would be fueling the fire just as much as he did.

I don't care who the appeal is for, as long as it is on the forums, it's public, and it's common policy that other admins say their oppinions, but I guess you're new, so you probably didn't know that :)

New? Me?

I've been in IceOps long before you joined mate, so you're the ''new'' one here.

Common policy that other admins say their opinions? Are you an admin?

I'd like to know Ninja's or Delta's or Kelm's opinion as they're obviously the ones who watch over us and not you.

It's funny because you're actually calling me a liar now, you werent even there mate.

It does matter wether you know me or not because you'd know im a calm person.

The last abuse report I had on me?

Look at the replies, and you'd know everyone agreed with what I did was right.

But noo, mister ''I know better'' has to jump to conclusions,

anyway close the thread as it's obvious that he doesn't have proof nor isn't appealing.

If you have been in IceOps longer than him, then why are you less professional than him? You kept going on with "You'll learn respect once you get out of highschool" stuff but yet you cant even respect your own clan members. Youre such a phony and a hypocrite its not even funny. Maybe you yourself will learn respect one day but for now why dont you just cool down and learn how to deal with things in a more professional manner and learn to not talk when you shouldnt. And if you were a calm person, you wouldnt have even got into the argument with me in the first place.

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Cheese please calm down too :P aint gonna help ya saying what you say in forums.

Im completely calm dont worry :P and i know im just try to get my point through his thick skull lol, thanks rocky xD

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I doubt this was one sided, since your screenshot has people saying that you @Down was the one insulting him.

I think, as an admin, you shouldn't be bothered with what other people say about you, as long as they don't use offensive language. I mean, who cares if he think's that you don't have a life?

IMO:

I have no clue why he would appeal a 3 hour ban.

If you'd take a look you see it's a friend of his, the dude was being annoying all map long.

You can see me attempting to make screenshots to show what he said above but I did /screenshot instead.

You can verbally abuse someone without having to use cursewords,

You're right I didnt really care enough hence the 3h ban,

You dont even know me, nor do I know you,

This appeal is not ment for you is it?

Who cares how much we know eachother? You attitude displayed here, and in the last abuse report I remember you had on you, just makes me more certain that if Cheese has screenshots, you would be fueling the fire just as much as he did.

I don't care who the appeal is for, as long as it is on the forums, it's public, and it's common policy that other admins say their oppinions, but I guess you're new, so you probably didn't know that :)

New? Me?

I've been in IceOps long before you joined mate, so you're the ''new'' one here.

Common policy that other admins say their opinions? Are you an admin?

I'd like to know Ninja's or Delta's or Kelm's opinion as they're obviously the ones who watch over us and not you.

It's funny because you're actually calling me a liar now, you werent even there mate.

It does matter wether you know me or not because you'd know im a calm person.

The last abuse report I had on me?

Look at the replies, and you'd know everyone agreed with what I did was right.

But noo, mister ''I know better'' has to jump to conclusions,

anyway close the thread as it's obvious that he doesn't have proof nor isn't appealing.

I only need to read your comments and notice your attitude towards power to figure out what kind of person you are.

You made this personal. I was trying to help this get settled, and you had to take it personal. I am offended that you would even ask if I am an admin, you are obviously not doing your job right, if you don't notice my comments in the report thread.

So one might ask what you are doing in this clan?

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You're ignorant savior, that's all I have to say about this.

YOU? Offended because I said you might or might not be an admin?

You're the one who said that I was ''new'' and didnt knew the rules

And now you're the one who's offended? Ignorant yet again.

You're questioning me about what I am doing in this clan?

I might ask you the same, as it seems you're only here to comment on my replies.

Focus on the topic instead please.

Thanks.

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If you're so hung up on it, take my powers away I wouldnt mind it one bit

as I didnt have any powers for months to begin with.

I am only telling you that you might want to take a deep breath in situations like this in the future :) - We have the warn plugin now, which works wonderfully. 3 warnings = 2 days ban, and it's their own fault if they don't get it after 2 warnings.

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If you're so hung up on it, take my powers away I wouldnt mind it one bit

as I didnt have any powers for months to begin with.

I am only telling you that you might want to take a deep breath in situations like this in the future :) - We have the warn plugin now, which works wonderfully. 3 warnings = 2 days ban, and it's their own fault if they don't get it after 2 warnings.

You're telling someone who's been an admin for over 4 years how to take action?

Honestly he would've been more pissed off if I had warned him.

He was already pissed off because of that arguement,

Warning someone who's pissed will only lead to more madness.

I had given him a chance to cool down, 3 hours from deathrun

It ain't ending his life

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I was there, and pretty much what Down said is true

This started out with Cheese asking why there's a swearing barrier because he thinks it's fun to swear.

I told him the reason, as it's a very obvious reason it did not seemed to reach him and thus kept going on that.

As the time went by this had started getting an arguement

It seemd more like he was ignoring what Down was saying, and kept asking why the cencor was on, beacause in his eyes he couldnt see why, even after Down had explaind it multiple times.

Cant quite remember the excact words, but it was something like this "If I called you a worthless human being, how would you feel?" then he responded with "I would find it offensive" then Down said "Excactly" that was him trying to explain why the cencor was on. though he didnt seem to quite get it, because the game is 16+ so why would there be a cencor on, then Down told him it was becuase most of the players are under 16.

And it kept going like this pretty much

So I got a few ss of the chat (Though you can always check the chatlogs to be sure :thumbup:)

http://i.imgur.com/5zXE0TX.png

http://i.imgur.com/WXJOyjV.png

http://i.imgur.com/gO2ce6o.png

http://i.imgur.com/HtvJofT.png

http://i.imgur.com/XxOo8ax.png

http://i.imgur.com/bxIR9gg.png

http://i.imgur.com/3Je5HCI.png

http://i.imgur.com/Vw36Kuv.png

http://i.imgur.com/szCJwjH.png

http://i.imgur.com/pRWhIbJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/JLkN881.png

http://i.imgur.com/cm2AyCw.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z68gX4y.png

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I was there, and pretty much what Down said is true

This started out with Cheese asking why there's a swearing barrier because he thinks it's fun to swear.

I told him the reason, as it's a very obvious reason it did not seemed to reach him and thus kept going on that.

As the time went by this had started getting an arguement

It seemd more like he was ignoring what Down was saying, and kept asking why the cencor was on, beacause in his eyes he couldnt see why, even after Down had explaind it multiple times.

Cant quite remember the excact words, but it was something like this "If I called you a worthless human being, how would you feel?" then he responded with "I would find it offensive" then Down said "Excactly" that was him trying to explain why the cencor was on. though he didnt seem to quite get it, because the game is 16+ so why would there be a cencor on, then Down told him it was becuase most of the players are under 16.

And it kept going like this pretty much

So I got a few ss of the chat (Though you can always check the chatlogs to be sure :thumbup:)

http://i.imgur.com/5zXE0TX.png

http://i.imgur.com/WXJOyjV.png

http://i.imgur.com/gO2ce6o.png

http://i.imgur.com/HtvJofT.png

http://i.imgur.com/XxOo8ax.png

http://i.imgur.com/bxIR9gg.png

http://i.imgur.com/3Je5HCI.png

http://i.imgur.com/Vw36Kuv.png

http://i.imgur.com/szCJwjH.png

http://i.imgur.com/pRWhIbJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/JLkN881.png

http://i.imgur.com/cm2AyCw.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z68gX4y.png

ok listen here. Why would you only show what i was saying? It was clearly just rebuttals to what down was saying and now it seems as if im the only one who contributed to this argument so why dont you get what down said? You cant be biased if your and admin. You dont take just what i say because im not an admin because he clearly said Some rude and uncalled for things to me. this is just an unfair case if you side with him just for that reason.

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ok listen here. Why would you only show what i was saying? It was clearly just rebuttals to what down was saying and now it seems as if im the only one who contributed to this argument so why dont you get what down said? You cant be biased if your and admin. You dont take just what i say because im not an admin because he clearly said Some rude and uncalled for things to me. this is just an unfair case if you side with him just for that reason.

This was pretty much all I have said anyway, not sure what you´re on about

Let them check the logs.

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I was there, and pretty much what Down said is true

This started out with Cheese asking why there's a swearing barrier because he thinks it's fun to swear.

I told him the reason, as it's a very obvious reason it did not seemed to reach him and thus kept going on that.

As the time went by this had started getting an arguement

It seemd more like he was ignoring what Down was saying, and kept asking why the cencor was on, beacause in his eyes he couldnt see why, even after Down had explaind it multiple times.

Cant quite remember the excact words, but it was something like this "If I called you a worthless human being, how would you feel?" then he responded with "I would find it offensive" then Down said "Excactly" that was him trying to explain why the cencor was on. though he didnt seem to quite get it, because the game is 16+ so why would there be a cencor on, then Down told him it was becuase most of the players are under 16.

And it kept going like this pretty much

So I got a few ss of the chat (Though you can always check the chatlogs to be sure :thumbup:)

http://i.imgur.com/5zXE0TX.png

http://i.imgur.com/WXJOyjV.png

http://i.imgur.com/gO2ce6o.png

http://i.imgur.com/HtvJofT.png

http://i.imgur.com/XxOo8ax.png

http://i.imgur.com/bxIR9gg.png

http://i.imgur.com/3Je5HCI.png

http://i.imgur.com/Vw36Kuv.png

http://i.imgur.com/szCJwjH.png

http://i.imgur.com/pRWhIbJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/JLkN881.png

http://i.imgur.com/cm2AyCw.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z68gX4y.png

ok listen here. Why would you only show what i was saying? It was clearly just rebuttals to what down was saying and now it seems as if im the only one who contributed to this argument so why dont you get what down said? You cant be biased if your and admin. You dont take just what i say because im not an admin because he clearly said Some rude and uncalled for things to me. this is just an unfair case if you side with him just for that reason.

Enough! @Cheese Ball, Either submit your own proof if you have any. If not, Then there is really nothing we can help you with(Or this Thread) unless we dig deeper into the Chatlogs. If it's severe enough to check the Logs, Then we will.

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ok listen here. Why would you only show what i was saying? It was clearly just rebuttals to what down was saying and now it seems as if im the only one who contributed to this argument so why dont you get what down said? You cant be biased if your and admin. You dont take just what i say because im not an admin because he clearly said Some rude and uncalled for things to me. this is just an unfair case if you side with him just for that reason.

I could send you the video I took these ss from if youd prefer that.

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If you're so hung up on it, take my powers away I wouldnt mind it one bit

as I didnt have any powers for months to begin with.

I am only telling you that you might want to take a deep breath in situations like this in the future :) - We have the warn plugin now, which works wonderfully. 3 warnings = 2 days ban, and it's their own fault if they don't get it after 2 warnings.

You're telling someone who's been an admin for over 4 years how to take action?

Honestly he would've been more pissed off if I had warned him.

He was already pissed off because of that arguement,

Warning someone who's pissed will only lead to more madness.

I had given him a chance to cool down, 3 hours from deathrun

It ain't ending his life

Think of it as a friendly advice, I only had your screenshot to go from. What UnnamedPlayer just added, makes me think different.

I still feel the same about your reaction towards me though.

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