Legendary $t0rM

Interesting conversation and topic.
 
Some of you know that I am a player with pings in the 300+ range and that I don't sit still for long lol.
I know camping is allowed but I too do find that it is frustrating when you do get some that are able to camp in the same spot for the entire game and not be killed.
I have tried so many times to get to some of these campers without success and a large amount of death (I don't care about my KD)

It also frustrating when there are only certain ways to approach these players and you continues to get killed no matter what you do or how hard you try.
During some of these times, I just completely gave up and left, feeling that it destroyed my sense of fun playing.

IF only I was able to jump or fly above them to kill them lol (it would be a shock to the core)
Hmmm thinking along that line, maybe it could be earned when you get so many kills (instead of getting uav for VIP, we get to fly haha)
 
Okay, it not a good sight to see the admins here arguing about something that is affecting some of your regular players.
Honestly, I think the really hard core campers that has large amount of kills and no death should be warned to move to another camp spot if they still want to camp.
That way they are not camping in the one spot the whole map, move between camp spots instead.

Verbal warnings (ask them to move nicely  ) in game to begin with, if no action after asking 2-3 times(when you ask the 3rd time let them know that the next time will be a kick)(this gives them a chance to move) then I think the kick would work better than an admin warning.
 
I suggest all the admins needs to discuss this in private and come up with a solution that is fair on the campers and non campers. (Hence my suggestion above)
Cheers
 
Ohh and this is a really lovely, friendly family clan

Hello,
           Okay first of all, none of this would of happened if i didn't clearly see you were abusing the Anti-Camp system with the M21 on ambush, i asked you not to abuse it and you started to argue with me, I warned you because you we're ignoring what i said and continued to do so! This is just blaitently exploiting the Anti-Camp system. The issue was not about where you were looking it was that you were not moving or just about moving... but staying in said location,also you may be able to see 5 different ways out but you chose to stay in the position to have the advantage of using the m21 from long range with a 1 shot capability.

There is a serious ploblem with people exploiting these 'said' weapons just because they don't get affected by the Anti-Camp at all it seems like, we have all been patiently waiting for an update to fix this issue but it's now at the point where a lot of people are leaving within a few minutes because they can't do anything.
 
I personally myself have stopped playing by at least 90% because it's literally unplayable for a player with my 'gamestyle', it's too unfair on the players that actually abide by this Anti-Camp system because they can't kill in 1 shot with any other weapons at 34DMG and have no ability to kill a player sitting in one spot across the map, i tried explaining this. Especially when players are going 40 kills to 0 deaths because they can't be killed from accross the map, and this happens almost every game!
 
This is a server wide issue that the M21 just ignores the Anti-Camp it seems and because of that no one seems to move because they don't need to.
 
Actually the warning was for 'Chronic M21 Camping' but i did state, regulars players would be kicked if they were to argue with an admin like you were doing.
 
I'm sorry you feel this way and i hope you do re-consider to stay.
 
-KMB
 
P.s.-  If i was in the wrong then someone tell me but quite frankly i feel i was justified in doing what i did in said situation , i didn't do it for myself , i did it for other players in the server because this has been a major issue for too long in my opinion and he was not the only player that was being asked to move.

i am not good at long paragraphs m8 but i'll keep it short and simple what ever your facing about camping or any problems remember that iceops is more like a family and if your not considered one at the first place they havnt accepted you in the beginning man i am here as your brother we all here!!!
i also made a son here not even brothers @CROdator my lovely son    
IceOps is all about having fun and enjoy your time and i am certain that you shall change your mind for your brother here asking not to leave just feel free to tell me every thing i will always be here you  can ask other fella members just tell me all your passing threw 
Plus your our bounty hunter man the most guy who keeps the server clean imagine those hackers without you in the server they will be annoying more than campers trust me 
Hope you take my words into consideration my friend 

Hi 610,

Since I was the one who started all this because I believe I was the one who first kicked someone for chronic camping, I feel obligated to share my opinion about campers on this server.

I totally understand that when you're sniping, you don't want to run around in the middle of the map to get yourself killed. On the other hand, many players (active players will know very well who I'm talking about) take that to such extremes that they hide with M21 behind an obstacle so that only a few pixels of their head is visible, if at all. I think it was MVR who I kicked for chronic camping on crossfire where he always sits at spots that are hard to reach and he's almost invisible at these spots (note that he's also the guy who loves to abuse the sandbags glitch on ambush). With MVR, on crossfire he's notoriously camping in top hotel, on crash it's spawn-house balcony, on strike it's hotel square, on citystreets it's grave-yard and so on - always "head-glitching" (yes, that's a term used in CoD4). And one could argue that it's also part of the skill to blend in with the environment, and they would be right, partially it is, but again, not when you're sitting at one spot throughout the entire map and abusing these places that are hard to reach. It's so frustrating for other players that they are leaving the game. When I first kicked MVR for camping, it wasn't only on my behalf, I think he was even in my team, but many players left just because of him.

Camping has been an issue for a long time here and it's been such a big issue that @leiizko has spent I believe more than several evenings trying to implement something that would address the issue. Unfortunately, the implementation doesn't work as intended (which was broadly discussed in another thread), so I think we'll have to try something different. But since all of this takes a lot of time, I thought I would just help the situation by temporarily kicking these hard-campers (after asking them to move) from the game when they are causing other people to leave, until a working solution gets implemented. I'm trying to be as tolerant as I can be in this respect because as I already said, I really do understand that not everyone is keen about running with sniper rifle in the middle of the street.

CoD4 in general is not doing as great as last year and it's getting considerably worse every year. And I know for a fact that many former CoD4 players wanted to return to the game, only to find out that one of the most, if not the most occupied servers is full of campers that render the game unplayable. So yes, I'm trying to take actions to prevent this from happening.

I haven't been there when KMB warned you for camping, but I'm pretty sure he knew what he was doing.

Hope you'll think it through and stay with us


Best Regards

ProXicT.

On s&d server so many people don't play xD
But, If I’m not mistaken, a script is running on the HC server that correlates the number of players with the size of the map.

Hey guys,  love your COD4 S&D server. However, is there any chance of you adding more maps to the rotation? Its starting to get a bit stale playing the same maps all the time.
 
Thanks! Cheers
 
Snoope

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I suggest from my point of view based on the beautiful guests on our servers and main players that we create an event every few days for new large maps not in the rotation.. like creek,,pipeline ...etc =]! 
who will vote yes for this ?